Tattooed Church 2011
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Nathan Coley interviewed by Charlotte Day
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CD: Black-and-white photographs of architectural structures you took some years back were the starting point for your conception of the new work and installation at ACCA. What took you to Brasília in the first instance, and what impressed you most there?
NC: I was in Brazil making a…
CD: Black-and-white photographs of architectural structures you took some years back were the starting point for your conception of the new work and installation at ACCA. What took you to Brasília in the first instance, and what impressed you most there?
NC: I was in Brazil making a book, travelling and taking photographs. In Brasília I casually took three shots of this strange, concrete-poured structure in the central civic square. Presumably the architect, Oscar Niemeyer, conceived it as a bandstand, a stage or a podium. I’ve been living with these images for many years, waiting for the right time to revisit them and make them into something else. There is a real power to them, a sense of potential.
CD: The idea of incompleteness, of things in continual flux and in a state of turbulence or uncertainty seems to underpin many of your projects. Is this a condition specific to our times or has the world most often been lived in such a way?
NC: I think we live in a time of moral uncertainty. I don’t see this as positive or negative; I see uncertainty as a neutral position. Ideas of faith, God, the individual versus the group, utopia and how morality articulates and dictates the world is nothing new — and to be honest, it is nothing to be scared of.
CD: Your ‘lectures’ match the truth of things with a belief in them in a stark but humorous way. Architecture is presented as more than a little doctrinaire, and some of your narrator’s descriptions of these architectural ready-mades undoubtedly have art equivalents. Do you see them as commentary, too, of art speak and/or the fine-art context?
NC: Hope is a wonderful thing. We want the music we have downloaded to change the day, we want the book we read in bed to transpose us in time and place, and for the words to make us smile. The lecture works rely on the audience’s need and expectation. I don’t see them as being cynical; they are more black and humorous, with bravado and self-mockery.
CD: You work with life-size and model architecture. Is there a particular logic at work in terms of the scale you use for different projects?
NC: I am compelled by the idea of the model — the object made before the monument, the handmade before the constructed. It has such promise and energy before the design deals with the politics of the world. Quickly made using a careful but efficient language, the sculptures I exhibit set up a scale change with the viewer. You go from being a small person in the large museum of treasures to being Gulliver ‘the giant’ in the land of Lilliput. You become aware of human size and scale when confronted by a sculpture of different size and scale, and I think that moment is fundamental to how sculpture works.
I also think of the model as being the nude in the studio — the naked figure being painted — and the model in the fashion-industry sense, the structure that the garment is displayed on. The camouflage designs that I paint onto the sculptures sit on top of the ready-mades, are worn by the models.
CD: That’s an interesting concept. Razzle Dazzle camouflage is a recurring motif in your work. What is its resonance for you?
NC: The design originates from the First World War. It was used to camouflage battleships, to make them appear other than what they were. I think of the motif as still having a connection with conflict and disguise. The sculptures take on a certain form, which the painting tries to deny.
CD: Do you have faith in and are you optimistic about good design? Is the public-plaza-inspired space you have made at ACCA a model or potentially real communal space?
NC: We have to travel positively. I think we are too quick to build, too eager to plan and design. ‘Slow architecture’ is our only hope. We are civic hominids, collective folk. We may not like or trust each other’s company. We may need to make elaborate rules and etiquettes just to hang out together, but it does seem to be our preferred habitat. We are street-corner creatures rather than the denizens of hedge and copse.
For a true city to work, there has to be difference. There has to be the living together of many faiths, many styles, many backgrounds and different levels of wealth. Only when there is the ‘Gathering of Strangers’ will a true city be born.
CD: Can you talk a bit about your threshold sculptures, and about how they may relate or differ from the ‘platforms’ you have made at ACCA? Your partially mirrored wall at ACCA draws, too, on the language of minimalist sculpture.
NC: The threshold sculpture is simple 8cm-high plank of wood on the floor, which you have to step over to enter the gallery space. Very simple and a bit annoying — I think of it as being a frame for the space. Critics hate them, as they think I am trying to trip them up, which of course is exactly what I am doing.
The ‘landings’ at ACCA have three roles. At first glance they are sculptures, beautiful poured-concrete forms (minimalist even) hovering in the space. They have a weight and a mass that makes them very dynamic to the eye. Permanent materials are used to create a temporary experience. Secondly, there is an invitation for you, the viewer, to walk on them. The steps lead you onto the rough top surface where your view of the space changes: you are elevated — you have an overview of the world. Now they become more of a stage or performance space. Somewhere you look from and are looked at. Thirdly, they work as a plinth. Tattooed Church is positioned near the edge of one, which becomes a raised surface to ‘present’. All three functions play with the notion of their relationship to and hierarchy with you, and the experience is accumulative.
The mirrored wall is the sky-scrapper, where the modern world lands and touches the ancient. Unlike the classical form of the ‘artwork’, this work is not a window that takes you through to another world or depicts another time. The stainless-steel city is a truly modern invention. It is where we see ourselves in the city, where we steal that glance to check our hair before we meet our date.
CD: I’d originally been thinking about Luna Tree more formally, as a remaking of your illuminated text works into a different form. But it has an important symbolic function within the installation too, doesn’t it?
NC: I agree. It does more than was first thought. It adds a degree of colour, of glamour and celebration, into what could have been a rather monotone controlled proposition. Perhaps it takes us back to Brazil in an unexpected way.
CD: Many of your works critique institutional frameworks, specifically religious institutions, but what about the confines of the institutions of art? Where do you see the art gallery in terms of religious experience or popular entertainment?
NC: The art gallery is a huge success. It is where we want to be seen, where we hang out, where we validate our cultural position. It is interesting and reassuring that the flaneur is alive in the digital age, that he is still strutting his stuff. However, with the success of new art museums some problems arise — added pressure is placed on artworks to deal with ‘the audience’. Has there ever been a more demanding time to be an artist?
CD: Well, I suppose it depends to what degree the artist is required to take on such factors. Do you approach working in public differently to working within a gallery or exhibition context? More generally, how important is public interaction to the status of your works?
NC: My more public works hold the same themes and subjects, and attempt to test them in a less prescribed situation. The public realm is the arena where ideas are really tested and notions really challenged and, arguably, where real meaning can accrue. I think that many of my works need to learn what they are. I find exhibiting them ‘in public’ accelerates that process. It’s a tough environment to work in. Failure is very public, but success can be very rewarding.
CD: Your interest in the nature of faith has enabled you to move outside of the confines of more rigid modernity, across wider geographies, periods of history and cultures too. Is this something you purposely set out to do?
NC: I am still a fan of primary source material. It has served me well over the years, and I am on the look out for inspiration from anywhere. Time doesn’t really need to be a factor. A story overheard in a bar about a 13th-century French king can be as useful a start to making art as any. But I am less interested in the start. It’s what can be made new that counts.
Brian Dillon
Out on the Platform
By placing the cemeteries at the ends of the residential highway axis, funeral processions will not need to cross the urban center. These cemeteries will be landscaped with lawns and suitable trees, the tombs to be smooth and the headstones simple — in the English tradition — the whole to be…
By placing the cemeteries at the ends of the residential highway axis, funeral processions will not need to cross the urban center. These cemeteries will be landscaped with lawns and suitable trees, the tombs to be smooth and the headstones simple — in the English tradition — the whole to be completely unostentatious.
Lúcio Costa, Report of a Pilot Plan for Brasilia (1957)
Some years ago Nathan Coley took a series of photographs in the Square of the Three Powers (Praça dos Três Pdoderes) in Brasília. He pinned them up in his studio, where they became the objects of a certain fascination: ‘I kept going back to the images, not knowing why.’ The square in question, and its attendant administrative buildings, was among the first public spaces completed for the inauguration of the new Brazilian capital on 21 April 1960. To the west stand the twin towers of the Brazilian Congress, to the north the Palácio do Planato, the administrative seat of the republic’s president, with its glass walls, expansive flat roof and sail-like white supports. To the south, 400 metres away across a vast open plaza interrupted only by a statue of the blind figure of Justice, sits a building of similar design, on a smaller scale: the Supreme Federal Court. The square, around which Brasília was originally conceived, is both a meaningful expanse — symbolic of both the state powers that flank it and of the immense flat plain on which the city is built — and a public space for the use and enjoyment of citizens and tourists. (It is also, lest one forget the civic and national function of the place, home to the largest continuously flown national flag in the world.)
Aerial photographs of the Square of the Three Powers suggest (because this writer has not been there) that the space is uninterrupted apart from flagpoles and sculpture. But Coley’s photographs reveal that a structure — perhaps mundane, maybe extraordinary — rises at its southern side and complicates the flatness or platitude of this utopian precinct. The images depict in a monochrome that looks as if it might date from the square’s completion (but for the clothes of the few people that appear there and the trees behind the court building) a low, stained-concrete platform, rectangular in shape and several metres in horizontal extent. It seems to hover above the rougher paving of the square. A dark void subtends the floating upper surface, and two perpendicular sides are interrupted by shallow flights of four steps each, which may bring visiting tourists or native flaneurs up onto the platform. Nobody has ventured onto this surface itself, but in Coley’s photographs five figures sit at the edges of the structure — at least one lounges relaxed, one foot raised onto the concrete. Behind them, the Supreme Federal Court mirrors distortedly the government buildings at the other side of the square; from another vantage, a vast, curving, glass-fronted building (a much later addition to this space, conceived with a clear unity of purpose, design and significance in mind) reflects a lower, grey cloudscape. The court itself contributes both rectilinear and curving, organic forms to the scene, but almost all else is starkly perpendicular. A thin vertical of concrete — perhaps a sculpture, an observation or bell tower — divides one photograph in two, and off to the right a pair of low and unpeopled concrete benches rhyme modestly with the central platform.
It is unclear what function this laconic object performs in the square, beyond the apparent and perhaps unofficial one of a place of rest. It is patently of a piece, design-wise, with the contemporary building and the other minimal furnishings that surround it. The thing might, as the artists suggests, be a kind of stage or bandstand designed for carrying out official functions or ceremonies, less formal celebrations or spontaneous entertainments, even demonstrations, on the part of the citizenry. It is both oddly self-involved and mysterious, and a type of invitation to the performance of state-sanctioned or unofficial rituals. As Coley notes, it looks distinctly unfinished, as if another building were meant to rise at the southern extremity of the plaza but has remained incomplete; it is perhaps a vacant space in which to dream of another building on a more human or intimate scale than those that flank the square. Most strikingly, it adds another level, another stratum, to a portion of the city that already rises above the surrounding plain: one ascends by steps to the Square of the Three Powers and looks down on the city that it is meant to govern and control, and has to some degree famously failed. Looking at the artist’s photographs of the platform — and perhaps this is what Coley himself began to discern — one begins to imagine Brasília as a stratified city, a series of layers somehow at odds with the concept essential to its original vision of a city radiating horizontally, along cross-wise axes, from its administrative centre. This enigmatic structure seems to suggest, especially as one tries to plumb the blackness under it, unknowable depths beneath the public facade.
A type of elevated flatness or horizontality has, in fact, long been intrinsic to the vision of Brasília as an administrative, political and urban centre. Central to its legendary origins is a vision that Dom Bosco, subsequently patron saint of the capital, claimed to have had on 30 August 1883, while traversing Brazil’s great central plain. He dreamed that while travelling across the Andes he was joined by a celestial guide:
I saw the bowels of the mountains and the depths of the plains. I had before my eyes the incomprehensible riches… which would one day be discovered. I saw numerous mines of precious metals and fossil coals, and deposits of oil of such abundance as had never before been seen in other places. But that was not all. Between the fifteenth and the twentieth degrees of latitude, there was a long and wide stretch of land which arose at a point where a lake was forming. Then a voice said repeatedly: when people come to excavate the mines hidden in the middle of these mountains, there will appear in this place the Promised Land, flowing with milk and honey. It will be of incomprehensible richness.
Bosco’s vision was officially sanctioned in the Republican Constitution of 1891. It was not a wholly visionary plan: the 14,000 square metres of the central plain envisaged for the city constituted, among other things, a safe haven from naval attack — always a danger in the then capital of Rio de Janeiro — but languished unfulfilled until the mid-1950s, when President Juscelino Kubitschek made it state policy to build the city by 1960.
The city’s subsequent history is well known. Urban planner Lúcio Costa drew up a scheme and his chief architect, Oscar Niemeyer, designed much of the fabric of the city in a style that consciously combined the modernism of Le Corbusier with the organic forms of native architecture. Brasília stands today as both a monument to the progressive, even utopian, ambition of modernism and a notorious lesson in its limitations; the socially and physically zoned ‘horizontal’ city soon stratified itself in precisely the terms it was planned to avoid. Class distinctions asserted themselves in the ostensibly communal and open city centre, a vast hinterland of the poor grew up to service that centre and the city’s inhabitants began to speak of suffering from brasilite, or Brasília-itis, an urban disorder brought on by the starkness and inhuman scale of the place.
What does it mean today to remake, obliquely, such a structure as the concrete platform that Coley discovered in Brasília? In part, the gesture is in keeping with a certain archaeology of modernism that has been undertaken by many artists in the last decade or so. It seems that the forms and the ideologies of modernist architecture, in particular, have returned to haunt a present that lacks both the aesthetic vision and the progressive political ambition of the mid-20th century. Inevitably, much of the work made in this vein engages the past in a melancholic fashion; the modernist ruin has become a familiar motif in contemporary art, so much so that it is possible to speak of the architecture of last century as having attained, in a prodigious acceleration of decay and regret, the status that classical ruins had for the ruin enthusiasts of the Romantic period. There were artists who knew this in the immediate wake of modernism. Robert Smithson is the prime example, with his concept of ‘ruins in reverse’: those structures and sites that seem to fall into ruin at the same time as they are being built or rebuilt. The concrete ruins of the recent past, on this reading, are dialectical entities, facing past and future at the same time.
Brasília, of course, is not a literal ruin, though it is certainly a relic. The functioning city — its serenely or thrillingly open spaces now considerably complicated by further construction, traffic and the messiness of actual urban life — is also a repository of utopian memories of a possible future. Coley’s vacant platform is a tabula rasa on which the hopes of the mid-century and their subsequent protracted dashing may be written. It is not exactly a melancholy object, and nor do its avatars in the gallery simply recall, in a nostalgic or ironic fashion, the futurism it once embodied. Coley’s sculptural response to the platform is a series of varied iterations of the original, their concrete poured in the gallery itself. The moment of their solidification in that space is an inauguration of sorts, an invitation to slightly elevate oneself above the gallery floor, thereby entering into a subtly different ritual or performative space and state. One of the platforms intrudes between two rooms of the gallery, becoming both and obstacle and a means of passage. There are reminders, too, of the site of the original platform itself — mirrored steel panels on the gallery wall reflect the spectator who has mounted a platform, recalling the glass architecture of the Square of the Three Powers. They open the gallery up to another place and time in which transparency and spatial openness were intended to foster something similar at the level of political and social interaction. At the same time, the work makes clear references to the minimalist sculpture of the 1960s, and Robert Morris’s notorious assertion that sculpture had simply declined (spatially speaking) from the vertical to the horizontal.
This material becoming and spatial alteration has a ritual or sacred aspect, quite coterminous with Coley’s longstanding critical interest in spaces of worship and the alternative cartography they describe around a city. We may recall
his installation The Lamp of Sacrifice, 286 Places of Worship, Edinburgh (2004), with its massed cardboard scale models of every church in the city. Or more materially his In Memory (2010), a modestly sized family graveyard constructed at the Jupiter Artland sculpture garden in Edinburgh, in which the headstones lack names and the whole is surrounded protectively by a blank concrete wall. The very enclosure and discretion of the work become the condition by which it opens itself to the memory and imagination of the visitor. It is not so much a work of mourning or melancholia as a space and substance in which certain possibilities, and a fluid relation with time and memory, are broached. The Brasília platform maintains something of this unostentatious openness. Its very self-sameness (the fluid concrete hardening to a uniform solid) is once more a sort of invitation, not merely to ascend the steps but to reflect on the stubborn survival of the original object and the continued uncertainty of its status in such an ordered and ‘cold’ environment.
Many photographs exist of the Brazilian capital under construction in the late 1950s, and they include black-and-white and colour views of the southern side of the Square of the Three Powers. One depicts the area as a scratted and apparently unruly building site, with the plain on which the city was constructed stretching in the distance. The impression is of an emptiness or flatness from which Bosco’s dream of 1883 is about to emerge. A shallow ramp of earth delivers materials to the site of the Supreme Federal Court, a single structure rising from the mass of crosshatched scaffolding: the thin white curve of the first support for the building’s roof. The support is massive but frail-looking from a distance, a tentative assertion of utopian ambition on the empty and hostile plain. It is exactly this intrusion of the lonely and hopeful vertical into the vacant landscape that Coley’s art asks us to consider, with its fragile, garish remnant of fairground architecture interrupting tree-like between the concrete plateaux hovering just above the gallery floor. It is an image of solitary presence — like the model of Scots’ Church perched on an adjacent platform — that holds promises at the same time that it holds the possibility of collective being and the persistence of a sense that here on the platform anything might happen.
Razzle Dazzle, The Situation Now
Juliana Engberg